Episode 73

What Separates Sustainable Neobanks From Those That Fail To Reach Profitability? | Brian Muse-McKenney, CRO at Episode Six

With 400 Neobanks globally raising $300 billion but only a few achieving profitability, the industry faces a critical question about sustainable business models.

In this episode, I speak with Brian Muse-McKenney, Chief Revenue Officer at Episode Six, and we answer the big question: What separates sustainable Neobanks from those that fail to reach profitability?

Brian brings deep expertise from over 16 years in global payments, having led PayMe to become Hong Kong's #1 payments app and now helping fintechs build modern payment products at global scale in Episode Six. He shares insights on the fundamental shift from growth obsession to economic discipline and reveals the specific metrics and strategies that actually drive profitability.

We explore the critical importance of unit economics over vanity metrics, the power of the 80/20 rule in customer focus, and why multi-product revenue strategies are essential beyond interchange fees. We also discuss the infrastructure decisions that can make or break scaling economics, the culture shifts needed for sustainable growth, and practical frameworks for identifying and nurturing profitable customer segments.

🔑 Key Highlights:

  • The shift from growth at all cost mentality to disciplined economics in Neobank’s strategy
  • Why LTV matters more than downloads and monthly active users
  • How the 80/20 rule transforms customer acquisition into profitable growth
  • The infrastructure partnerships that enable or destroy unit economics at scale
  • Why saying "I was wrong" creates winning cultures that drive profitability

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Timestamps

We cover:

[00:00:00] Neobanking profitability state : 400 companies, 15 profitable

[00:02:00] From growth at all costs to economic discipline mindset shift

[00:03:00] Unit economics that actually matter for sustainable growth

[00:09:00] Revenue diversification beyond interchange fees

[00:11:00] FX, lending, and subscription models that drive margins

[00:16:00] The 80/20 rule: Why power users beat customer acquisition

[00:19:00] Customer research strategies for identifying profitable segments

[00:24:00] Low-hanging fruit for struggling Neobanks

[00:26:00] The courage to say "I was wrong" and cut unprofitable customers

[00:29:00] Psychological safety and winning culture fundamentals

[00:32:00] Global profitability patterns: Asia vs Europe vs North America

[00:39:00] The 10X innovation doctrine for market differentiation

[00:45:00] Infrastructure partnerships that enable profitable scaling

[00:51:00] Three key takeaways for sustainable Neobank success

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Disclaimer: This episode does not constitute professional nor financial advice and does not represent the opinion nor views of my current, past or future employers. The guest has agreed to record and release our conversation for the use of this podcast and promotion in social media.

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Monica Millares

Monica advocates for financial safety for all. She is the Product Principal at BigPay, where she leads Product and Design. As part of the founding team, Monica led building BigPay’s product from zero to one, to multi product line, and international expansion. Her leadership shaped the culture and ways of working to grow from startup to scaleup. BigPay has over 1.4 million customers, and has presence in Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand.

Monica has almost 20 years’ experience in Financial Services. Prior to BigPay, she was one of the first joiners in UK’s challenger Tandem Bank, where she focused on building credit cards from scratch. Previously she worked in leading Financial Services brands like Visa, Barclays, and a Mexican Development Bank.

She sits on the Board of PayEd, and is recognised as Singapore’s #Fintech65 Product Leaders and Women in FinTech. She’s been multiple times speaker at the prestigious conference Money2020 and shared stage with JP Morgan, Standard Chartered Bank, Konsentus, and Money2020’s Rise Up. Her commitment to innovation and financial inclusion resonates in her podcast “Purpose Driven FinTech” where she explores how FinTech’s can have 10x more impact.

Monica has a background in Engineering and a Master’s Degree on Analysis, Design, and Management of Information Systems from the London School of Economics.